It is interesting that the Mabasa are the decendents of the Ntuli's. Vuza, Mabuza endodeni ngoba umfazi uyacucuza, Vokomaya, Nkomo kayisen... Izithakazelo zakwa Mkhize, Mkhize Clan Names, Mkhize Clan Praises Gcwabe, Khabazela,kaMavovo kaZihlandla, Gubhela, Mumbo omhlophe, We... Izithakazelo zakwa Dlamini [Zulu] Sibalukhulu, Mdlovu, Magaduzela, Magaga kaNsele, Wena owashisa umuntu ngesikhuni esibunjini kwaze kw... Izithakazelo zakwa Khumalo, Khumalo Clan Names, Khumalo Clan Praises  Mntungwa, Mbulaz'omnyama, Nina bakaBhej' eseNgome, N... Thola esakho isikibha manje. TSONGA HISTORY PERSPECTIVE BY MANDLA MATHEBULA, ROBERT NKUNA, HLENGANI MABASA AND MUKHACANI MALULEKE [INITIALLY WRITTEN AS A RESPONSE TO THE TSONGA-SHANGAAN KINGSHIP DEBATE] Early History of Tsonga communities in South East Africa Archaeological evidence points to a continuous occupation of the area between St Lucia Bay from at least the thirteen century, probably at … THE MABASO'S ARE NOT THE HLENGA NGUNI'S. They lived alongside with the Khumalo's but when the group moved back to the North, some Hlengwe's stayed behind. Vhangona are therefore regarded as the aboriginal Vendas. Ndawonde! Xigombeeeeeeeeee.Hi Vadyi va Humba(Snail). THAT IS WHERE A DIVISION HAPPENS. Amakhasi. Find career: Search. as for the 'Vahlengwe' name it still relates to where these MABASO/MABASA people migtrated and integrted/intermarried with the people of that place. Labels: Izithakazelo, Tinanatelo. In order to know the difference you must understand the identities properly not only those of Nguni (especiallyZulu). i just wanna say this people in particular to the Mabasa/Mabaso surname. Wayesethi: Ngibambeni makhosikazi kubuhlungu isinene! Mabasa versus Mabaso? Clan Praises for Mabasa, Izithakazelo, Direto, Tshirendo, Iinanazelo, Tinanatelo, Iziduko, Xipato, Mabasa's history, Mabasa's heritage, Mabasa's clan information as to why people, the Shangaan Mabasa no longer know these things it's due to the loss of the Nguni language and the culture when they were sucked INTO `wakahina.co.za`.new communities..and also for security reasons they had to adjust the surnames and praise or praise according to the new experiences they encountered after the migrations. thats because it comes from the same place. they were later dispersed by the Portuguese and fled back to SA some remained in Mozambique.ok i found something interesting concerning the Mabasa/so's clan..like the first isithakazelo above it menttions 'Abath bedl umuntu bebemyenga ngendaba'; also this part is found in the MABASO/MNTUNGWA (KHUMALO) praise. Tell friends: Top Top. Guys, do not mislead each other or understand identities from a Zulu perspective. Dabulamanzi KaMpande. Izithakazelo zakwa Qumbisa, Qumbisa Clan Praises Qumbisa, Jiyeza ! ntombieh kunene. You must be … Lobengula. uNdaleka owayelenkani yotshongolo. just brothers and sisters who expanded outside one family. Clan Praise(s) By: Famanda Thomas Chauke. (This succession between close brothers is reflected by references in Zulu praise poetry such as Zulu ka Phunga no Mageba! Umlando wakwaHlatshwayo – History. I Xinyori xa humba xo kangetela ribyeni.Xa kangetela ribyeni. some fled with Mzilikazi to Zimbabwe some with Soshangane to Mozambique and later on back to South Africa (in two provinces Limpopo and Mpumalanga) some remained in Mozambique etc. Content submission. Hi mina Famanda, Famanda wa Khazamula, Khazamula wa Mkhacani, Mkhacani wa Manzi, Manzi wa Dlhamani, Masivamela, wo kanela timhaka ta huvo a sivamile, wa matsena wa bangwani, wa xinyori xa humba xo kangetela xibyeni, xa ntsandza chavani xi chava mahika wa mumu wa tolo, wa vukolokoco maribyeni, hlazani mahula homu, madyaswambisi! Munyanyi Ku Phinda Boqe Daka! baloyi,makaringe,xilowa. Sesha izithakazelo. Ninenadlimfe embili Kwaphumikhambi lalinye Mashudula ngokushudulenkundleni KwaMazingeni yababomvu Malinga! Hi, plz ngicela izithakazelo zakaMteshane. Vahlenge. Mzilikazi fled with allegedly about 500-600 people (you will note he managed to gather his people in time before Shaka would arrive, hence the reason they still speak Nguni/Zulu/Ndebele in Zim and South Africa because they left with their wives. Malindzisa clan names. Bhakwane. )AGAIN I WOULD LIKE TO MAINTAIN MY POSITION THAT MABASA AND MABASO ARE NOT THE SAME WHILE MABASA WHEREVER YOU FIND THEM ARE A ONE NATION, THE LENGWE'S. Faka ezakho izithakazelo. Next. WHEN IT COMES TO NGUNI THEN SEPARATES THE LENGWA'S FROM THE NTUNGWA'S. Historically, surnames evolved as a way to sort people into groups - by occupation, place of origin, clan affiliation, patronage, parentage, adoption, and even physical characteristics (like red hair). Tshawuke. originally the Mabasa/so's are the KHUMALO'S. sorry, can the author explain the difference between the other Nguni Mabasa or Mabaso. HLANGUZA IS NOT MANY IN HISTORY. Mvoti kambali emila emafusini! Izithakazelo zakwaMabaso Mntungwa, Mbulaz’omnyama, Nina bakaBhej’ eseNgome, Nin’ enadl’umuntu nimyenga ngendaba, Nin’ enadl’ izimf’ezimbili ikhambi laphuma lilinye, Lobengula kaMzilikazi, Mzilikazi kaMashobana, Shobana noGasa kaZikode, Zikode kaMkhatshwa, Okhatshwe ngezind’ izinyawo nangezimfushanyana, UMkhatshwa wawoZimangele, UNyama yentini yawoZimangele Mabaso … The problem is that you classify everyone as Nguni. Izibongo zoMntwana uZibhebhu kaMaphitha: Leave a Reply Cancel reply. it shows these people are from the same person. Sonkabiyajoqo! ndzi mthondolovhana wa gwamba,wa madanci,wa nengwani,wa magulasavi,wa makhuva, wa nkami, wa phangweni, wa ghulukhulu, wa changamire. Mabasa versus Mabaso? Ngicela ukwaziswa ngezithakazelo zakwakunene odlomo nt ngwenya. THE MABASA'S WHO MIGRATED TO THE NORTHERN KWAZULU-NATAL FOUND THEMSELVES IN THE BAQULUSI REGION. Khukhuza Khulu. Malindisa Skhandisa samakhosi, Thwala lomzimkhulu, Mnyamande, Mkhont’oduma njengezulu, Ithala lomkhonto lisemaNyamandeni, Nhlangothi zimanxebanxeba, Wena kaMlamulankunzi ungaziyeki zibulalane, Wena kaSiwela owawela umfula ngesilulu, Mnyango … Hosi Ya Kuvonakala . MNTUNGWA Mbulaze Phuma langa sikothe MABASA owabasa entabeni Kwadliwa ilanga lishona Previous. Next . some ended up in Swaziland but arent originally AmaNgwane/EmaSwati, but just got integrated INTO `wakahina.co.za`.the clan. TO MAKE THINGS SIMPLE - EVERY CLAN HAS A SOLEMN PRAYER SONG, IF THEY HAVE NOT FORGOTTEN THEIR ROOTS. If u check the Khumalo they have Mahlangu whose totem is a "gazelle" inhlangu", resulting in Hlanguza that u referring to above. For a full list of Izithakazelo zakwaZulu, please click here on Zulu Clan Names List & Zulu Surnames. Izithakazelo zakwa Zulu, Zulu Clan Names, Zulu Clan Praises Ndabezitha, Zulu kaMalandela ngokulandela izinkomo zamadoda, Zulu omnyama ondlela zimhlophe, Wena kaPhunga noMageba, Wena kaMjokwane kaNdaba, Wena wenkayishana kaMenzi eyaphuza umlaza ngameva, S'thuli sikaNdaba, … Izithakazelo zakwa Shezi, Shezi Clan Names, Shezi ... Izithakazelo zakwa Mahlalela, Mahlalela Clan Names... Izithakazelo zakwa Mahlangu, Mahlangu Clan Names, ... Izithakazelo zakwa Mahlinza, Mahlinza Clan Names, ... Izithakazelo zakwa Mahlobo, Mahlobo Clan Names, Ma... Izithakazelo zakwa Makhanya, Makhanya Clan Names, ... Izithakazelo zakwa Makhathini, Makhathini Clan Nam... Izithakazelo zakwa Maluleka, Maluleka Clan Names. It is an analysis of the historical movements and cultural significance of the Vatsonga people of Southern Africa. Mabasa, Hlanguza, Gqomokhulu ka Sonene, Sihlangw' Esimhlophe Sika Ntuli, Beth' uNtuli kazalanga, Wamzala wamunye wamthi qwa! ask yourself why so many Shangaan surnames resemble that of the Nguni (i wont say specifically ZULU coz all the clans in Natal were integrated INTO `wakahina.co.za`.the then smaller ZULU clan but not originally Zulu's. there are some Shangaan sections of people who write their surnames as MABASO but when they gather for the cultural ceremonies also the MABASA are present and they are one unit. Izithakazelo zakwa Jeza | Jeza Clan Praises. This document is part of a series in the Digital Tsonga Productions research project. Mzimkhulu. "Madzanga, xipha wa xikovele. Sivumane saMatsena. HLANGUZA IS ACTUALLY THE CONNECTION OF ALL THE MABASA'S. thats due to different directions these people took.those who think there is a difference i think its the same thing..the surname is written the same except the last vowel 'a' and 'o'. Add your own clan name info. AS YOU CAN FIND IT HERE TOO, THESE PEOPLE HAVE A MENTION OF MAGODA, MZILA, ETC. I thought it say Mabasa chauke zandlovu... Guys is there any difference between Mlilo, Mabaso, Mabasa, Gasa, Chauke. Search. Add Surname. Hi va ka Mongwe wa Rimbale wa Valoyi. Oh, Mabasa and Hlengwe are not Shangaan they are Tsonga. young people must learn these relations among the Nguni's, it just brings us closer. The paper discusses the history of the Tsonga Click here to find out if you have won a prize. XiTsonga is spoken by about 1,972,000 people in South Africa's Limpopo province as … uma kukhona ezinye ozaziyo, sicela uzifake kwi-commect section. Xikoveleeeeeeee!! Leave a Reply Cancel reply. am asking this simply because you cannot have any Mabasa outside the Nguni and Shangaan people!! Mtotobi kaNkumba. moffat. ndzi ncila ava ololi loko wo olola wu ta tshoveka wu oloriwa hi mbita ya nyama, ndzi mudyi wa swipame, mudyi wa mihandzu, ndzi khandziya nsinya ndzi chika hi marhavi, ahee khalanga ahee murodzwi ahee ntukulu … Cause these come in as our clan praises also. Mvoti kambali emila emafusini! Thabisa! Izibongo zabeNtungwa – surnames of Mntungwa ‘s people. Oh, Mabasa and Hlengwe are not Shangaan they are Tsonga. The Nguni of back then knew the Vahlengwe as amaHlenga. well i dont know. Do not limit our history - not everyone originates from Nguni. In order to know the difference you must understand the identities properly not only those of Nguni (especiallyZulu). Khalanga! but then again all the NGUNI people are from one parent NGU. Izithakazelo zakwa Manana. Listen to Prophetic Praise and Worship by Pastor Rudolf Mabasa on Deezer. Ntobeh Mathebula. They lived alongside with the Khumalo's but when the group moved back to the North, some Hlengwe's stayed behind. THE PHRASE: ABATHI BEDLA UMUNTU BABEMYENGA NGENDABA IS A GENERAL NGUNI PHRASE AND MUST NOT CAUSE CONFUSION. Mntungwa! The Sibiya do have a praise line that says “iNkomo esengelw’ emaweni (maoeni), yasengelwa esibayeni, akusiyona eyakhona.” IT IS A FIRST HYMN, ACTUALLY IT IS THE ANTHEM OF YOUR CLAN. Pastor Rudolf Mabasa. Other dialects are Xiluleke, N’walungu, Hlave, Nkuna, Gwamba, Nhlanganu, Djonga, and Bila. Thina sehlula amabhunu elezibhamu zawo” TIHOSI TA KA CAWUKE. Is there anyone knowing about the surname Xhakaza pls let me … Izithakazelo zakwa Khumalo, Khumalo Clan Names, Khumalo Clan Praises Mntungwa, Mbulaz'omnyama, Nina bakaBhej' eseNgome, N... Search blog. Nyarhi..... Share By: Ntuthuko Zwane. AmaNxotwe Clan. Vhangona clans were the first clans to settle in present day Venda and parts of southern Zimbabwe. The Nguni of back then knew the Vahlengwe as amaHlenga. va rimutsu ro famba hi ntlavha ri tsika managa exivukweni. wena uzalwa ngubani kabani kabani kabani kabani laphaya kwaHlatshwayo? We are the children of Mhlengwe not Mntungwa.we are the original Bhele of Lenge boChauke,Mabasa, Mamba,Sonene,Madziva-ndlela,Bhengu,Luthuli,Shitanga,Malandela,Vezi, etc.Mntungwa(Mbulazi) and Mhlengwe(Ntuli) have different fathers. Ngiyanithanda sizukulwane sakwa Ntuli. Almost every clan pretends to have come from afar, and strange to say, they came from all points of the compass. There were other greats who co-existed before and after him from other ethnic groups. 2018 | Pastor Rudolf Mabasa Prophetic Praise and Worship Pastor Rudolf Mabasa | 03-10-2018 Total duration: 2 h 04 min. © 2020 wakahina.co.za | All Rights Reserved. Get yours: 061 868 5163. Two of their clans, without doubt, came from the north, the Ba-ka-Baloyi and the Tembe. After a lot of searching I did finally arrived into a conclusion that Mabasa = Mabaso. Shawuke! Powered by WordPress & Theme by Anders Norén. WHAT IS YOUR HYMN GUYS, THE ONE USED WHEN YOU ARE GOING OUT TO WAR, WHEN YOU ARE BURRYING YOUR DEAD, WHEN YOU ARE MARRYING YOUR CHILDREN. Clan Praise(s) By: Wakahina . For a list of deceased people from this clan, click here. Jeza, Mabasa Mtumaseli Mabele made Wena owancelisa ingane ngaphesheya komfula, Wena waseSiphudini. those in Mpumalanga are from the other section of the Nxumalo leadership of MAWEWE and those in Limpopo GIYANE are Mzila's (these are NGHUNGHUNYANE'S twin sons who quarelled during the civil wars in Mozambique GAZA Kingdom as Mawewe/Mzila?? WARNING! There were other greats who co-existed before and after him from other ethnic groups. For more go to http://fanathepurp.co.za/category/project-tsonga/. Sinyorinyori sahumba. Famous Hlengwe surnames are Cawuke or Chauke and Mabasa. Thabisa! Xipata. 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